May Mortgage Update: And what to do with DH’s salary next year

Last month (April):

Balance: $106,607.65
Years left: 9.166666667
P = $781.78, I =$432.62, Escrow = 726.93

This month (May):

Balance: $105,256.57
Years left: 9
P = $787.09, I =$427.32, Escrow = 621.66

Look, our prepayment has gone up (by the amount escrow went down)!

One month’s savings:  $2.63.

We talked and we talked.

Last year, unsure of DH’s tenure chances, we decided to put as much as we could in his retirement accounts, under the assumption that we could cut his retirement savings later more easily. Additionally, putting money in his 457 plan meant we could tap that without penalty as an emergency fund if he leaves state employment (which he is now likely to do).

However, I have a feeling it will be difficult for us to actually pull the trigger to tap that 457 when DH leaves state employment (something that has a high probability as tenure is unlikely). Especially if we stick around here for another year before moving to part or parts unknown. More likely we’ll just roll it over to a Vanguard IRA.

I also ran some numbers, and happily found out that with our insane retirement-putting-away, we’ve made up for all those low-wage years in graduate school. We’re doing pretty well (especially with the stock market recovery!) So we can ease up so long as I keep putting in regular amounts. Not that we’re at a point yet where we could retire early if we could just tap those accounts, but we’re where we should be if we’d been at these salaries the whole time and putting away regular amounts rather than just the IRA limit. Putting more in wouldn’t be overkill by any means, but easing down isn’t a foolish decision either.

So for the next year, DH would like to not put money in the 457, but instead put it towards the mortgage. The thought is that if we stay long-term it won’t hurt to have the mortgage paid down rather than a huge amount in savings, and if we leave, we would need that money for a downpayment someplace more expensive. And we’re not going to buy a new house until this one has sold. If we’re willing and able to take a small loss on the house, then it should sell quickly.

I think we’re still going to contribute the extra amounts to our 403(b)s, at least for the next year. (And we’ll have to start a 529 for the second kid! Also there will be extra child care costs.)

So that will be another 15K, give or take, towards the mortgage next year. Our monthly pre-payment will go up probably by 1000/month (because I like round numbers). If I get any of the grants we’ve applied for, that will be another 10K in summer money that might as well go towards the mortgage. If I get a raise (with promotion– no COL increases here!)… well, that’s going to go directly to new child care costs and, if there’s any leftover, to bulk up the emergency fund rather than anything else.

Then the year after that will probably be the “put the money towards cash” year. Unless DH decides to not work that last year, in which case it will be a “cut expenses and cut contributions to #1′s 403(b)” year so we can fix up the house for sale.

So that’s the longish-term planning we’ve got for dealing with dropping to one salary within a 2 year time-frame. There are some benefits with academic employment. And I sure am glad we made most of our fixed cost decisions when we didn’t know he was going to have a job in the first place– it’s a lot easier to deal with a mortgage that you bought with the assumption of one salary than a mortgage that takes two.

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17 Responses to “May Mortgage Update: And what to do with DH’s salary next year”

  1. First Gen American Says:

    I definitely feel more secure with additional home equity. It’s a lot more tangible to me somehow.

    • nicoleandmaggie Says:

      It bugs me how logically it makes more sense monetarily (if we are maximizing our net worth) to have ginormous retirement accounts (not too comparatively ginormous, of course, still need to diversify… but we do have disability insurance etc.), but additional home equity just feels more real.

      • First Gen American Says:

        I think part of it is just that it also feels like it’s more in my control. Yeah, the ROI potential isn’t as high, but you can actually control your investment by maintaining and improving your home, choosing the location of it, etc. By investing in the stock market, or bonds, you’re actually putting your money in someone else’s hands to manage and grow. It feels further away, further removed from your control, etc. I know it’s a silly hangup, but hey, I figure any saving is better than no saving, so who cares if it’s not 100% optimal. It’s still better than probably 3/4 of what the country does

      • Debbie M Says:

        I don’t feel that my equity is at all under my control. Who understands housing values.

        Paying off the house means that much less in housing costs each year. But then increasing the retirement accounts means that much more in income each year. Normally savings are better than earning because they are not taxed, but my retirement savings are all in Roth’s, so those are not taxed either.

  2. J Liedl Says:

    With regards to housing, we made the same plan to stay within a one-income budget when it came to our mortgage. It served us well: he’s not an academic but works in office/tech/support fields where the job opportunities locally are almost non-existent. He’s retrained twice, now, but unless we were willing to up and move for his career, he’s only part-time employed. Therefore, a budget that relies on my income alone makes so much more sense.

    We’re still thrilling over our latest mortgage renewal (short term mortgages are the standard here in Canada) where we scored a 2.99% interest rate and have taken a further five years off of the amortization. Woot!

  3. Linda Says:

    I’ve been thinking it may be time to try refinancing again. This time instead of the mortgage broker I would go to my current lender (Chase) to find out if there are any options to lower my interest rate from the 4.875% I’m currently paying. That would mean I’d have to choose a term for a fixed rate mortgage, though, and I’m not sure if I’m comfortable switching to a 15 year instead of the “standard” 30 year term because I would lose the flexibility to pre-pay or not, depending on my income. On the other hand, taking out a new 30 year mortgage and paying it completely on schedule would mean having a mortgage when I’m in my early 70s; not something I want to be doing. I’m on track now to pay off in 20 years, so I could always ask about a non-traditional term like that, I guess.

    While it wasn’t planned this way, I am paying the mortgage by myself due to divorce. Taking in roommates has helped to give me more income and the flexibility that comes with it, but I don’t want to count on that.

    I suppose another option for paying down the mortgage could be to take any tax refunds I get and apply them to principle. For the past few years I’ve been using my tax refunds to do work on the house, though. Either way I hope it has some effect on equity.

    • nicoleandmaggie Says:

      It’s hard to make these decisions when there’s future uncertainty.

      For us, we would have to pay to refinance to a lower rate at this point and most of the scenarios I run make it not worth the cost of refinancing (because we’d either pre-pay too quickly or resell soon)… but…if we stay here for a long time and DH doesn’t have income, it might be worth it. It’s really hard to say. So we don’t do anything!

      • Linda Says:

        Yes, there is the uncertainty of whether I will stay here for many more years, too. There are many things to love about my current living situation and I’ve put quite a bit of work/time/money into making it pleasant to me (landscaping, food garden, chicken coop, updated kitchen, etc.), but I am living in Chicago and every winter gets harder for me. I would love to move to the California Central Coast, but I have to figure out how to position myself for such a dramatic uprooting in my personal and professional life. I’m taking baby steps in that direction, even if they amount to only changing certain things inside my own head right now.

      • nicoleandmaggie Says:

        My father keeps talking about making that same move– retiring from the midwest to the central coast.

  4. Leigh Says:

    So many variables!

    Woot on making up for the low-wage earning years in grad school!

    Do you plan to pay off your mortgage before your DCs (!) go to college? That could help with college paying cash flow as well.

    • nicoleandmaggie Says:

      Depends if we’re still here or not. The oldest DC is only in kindergarten, so even if we stopped all pre-payment it would be done before the oldest is in college. If we’re not still here… it takes a long time to pay down a 600K-800K mortgage, even at silicon valley wages.

  5. davesn Says:

    Home equity is definitely a plus. If you ever need to, you can also borrow against it. Of course, we all hope that never happens but it does provide an additional cushion if needed. Good for you guys for thoroughly exploring your options.

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