THE SYLLABUS, YOU MUST OBEY! OBEY!!!!
(or, take your F and go away)
email me and you will see
how very angry I can be
#2: “Dr. #1 is scary. Don’t take classes from her unless you’re really smart and responsible.”
Topic 2: Boobs.
#2: I haven’t read dr crazy yet. I did read historiann and mildly agree with her.
#1: I also agree with historiann
and also understand that most people would have excused the misogyny if he’d at least been funny (and not just “women have no sense of humor” unfunny, but even unfunny to sexist men!)
#2: My partner chuckled occasionally, but also felt that a lot of it fell very very flat. He remarked, “Chances that Seth McFarlane ever hosts anything again: Approaching zero.”
#2: I’m reading dr crazy too, and I slightly agree with her as well.
#1: I think Dr. Crazy is right that this points out the standards of Hollywood. But I also am fairly sure that was not Seth McFarlane’s intention. I think that no, really, his audience is jerky 12 year old boys
#2: actually I think it kinda WAS his intention
#2: yes, but our views are not mutually exclusive. He could be honestly poking at Hollywood while at the same time also appealing to 12-year-olds
#1: and even if it did, hollywood can feel good about slamming him down and getting back to business as usual, meaning he messed up. He needs the “wink” to show he’s being ironic.
#2: I feel like Seth McFarlane at the Oscars is such a tiny blip in the landscape of prevailing misogyny that I can’t get that upset about it.
Sexist or not-sexist, I wish he had been FUNNIER
#1: that’s what everyone is saying!
#2: some parts were mildly funny
some parts… were bombs
(relatively independently of what the subject matter was)
#1: also I watched Will Ferrell accept the Mark Twain award, which also made me laugh and had a little bit of poking at the patriarchy in it, which was a pleasant surprise
#1: the steve martin/alec baldwin intro to the oscars was not actually particularly politically correct, but it sure was funny
#2: ah, see, here: I agree with Flavia: ”I actually wasn’t particularly bothered by the “boobs” number. It was the casual, relentless misogyny in the rest of MacFarlane’s act that did it for me. Like his description of “Zero Dark Thirty” as testimony to women’s ability “to never, ever let anything go.” Like his saying that it didn’t matter if we can understand a word Salma Hayek or Penelope Cruz say, because they’re great to look at. And on, and on. “
the boobs number was actually somewhat amusing. The “women can’t let go” joke was offensive.
#1: I don’t think seth mcfarlane was trying to point out misogyny– I think he just is a misogynist
#1: well, I meant boob controversy as teh whole thing
he lives and breathes misogyny
can’t help it
#2: and here is where I agree with dr. crazy: ”And so, while I don’t think that McFarlane was a laugh riot, and I am deeply suspicious of the way that irony is used as an alibi for sexism these days, I didn’t find him demonstrably more offensive than most of the pop culture that I encounter on a daily basis.”
#1: no, it was obviously the combination with being offensive and not being funny
even ricky gervais was forgiven for skewering hollywood becasue more folks found him hilarious
Topic 3: Creepy education.
#2: more than a bit creepy
#2: intro analogies are pretty bad journalism anyway