link love

In case you haven’t seen it, this post from the onion pretty well sums up the week.  We have to say, though, the law enforcement responses have been really amazing.  It kind of brings back one’s faith in government… well, in public servants.  Not so much in NRA-sponsored politicians.  They still suck.

Sad about death, destruction, and random bombings? Hit reload at emergency kitten.

A good article from get rich slowly on how financial literacy classes don’t really work.

Fretful porpentine with some awesome art.

Penny-arcade with a really thoughtful strip on gun control.  More from mom-101 on the senate vote.

Bro says, “I guess my baby sister is cool. Or whatever,” from offbeat families.

Offbeat home loves on libraries.

OMG from academic cog.

Reassigned time talks about what life after tenure is like.  We hope more folks will chime in.

Microsoft excel error used in a conference paper to justify economic policy.  (Refereeing would not have found the excel error, btw.)  From arstechnica.

YOU NEED TO SEE THESE PICTURES from buzzfeed THEY ARE VERY IMPORTANT (ed: or have babies and puppies).  On the other hand, just babies.

SBC comics explains how extremists screw up communication.

Not of general interest on being a writer, and Dame Eleanor with a deliberately controversial post on negative spirals/group therapy vs. accountability.

Finally, if you haven’t checked out our Ask the Grumpies from yesterday, TRS could still use some advice (she adds info in the comments, as well).

We were in this week’s carnival of personal finance.

12 Responses to “link love”

  1. Comradde PhysioProffe Says:

    F*cke, it’s your fault I just wasted a half hour putzing around on Buzzfeed!

  2. becca Says:

    Really appreciate the baby cheeks after this week.

    I think the perspective on personal finance education is interesting, but the whole “yes, it works to teach this to people who are motivated, but not people who aren’t” is applicable to nearly everything. Maybe personal finance is especially that way for some reason related to how it’s viewed? Or maybe it just isn’t fair to expect anything to be “sticky” if it’s taught as an random topic that isn’t reviewed regularly and you aren’t *expected* to find fun.
    In fairness, there’s excellent data coming out on science education and how “incompatible with my worldview” trumps almost any amount of information. Personal finance may run into similar problems- it’s easy to teach people the theory, but that doesn’t leave to behavioral changes.

    • Rosa Says:

      I think applicability is important, too. A budgeting class based on locally-available jobs & apartments plus car payments and whatnot, might make teenagers really pay attention – a more abstract “when you are 50 you will have paid THIS MUCH for that latte” maybe less so.

      The Girl Scouts have an excellent finance education program that’s based on the age of the girls doing it – the piece I’ve had quoted at me by a tween girl is the “price per wear” of an outfit that makes flashy/trendy items something you should buy cheap and (in this example) a pair of tennis shoes she would wear every single day all school year for sureactually quite affordable on a per-wear basis.

      It worries me that the only people I know who volunteer teaching financial literacy skills are finance MBA types who draw their salaries from people’s large, long-term debts. I am not sure mortgage bankers are the right people to be influencing young folks ideas about money. But I haven’t found a volunteer gig of that nature that’s not organized in partnership with a bank or lending organization, or is open to non-professionals like me.

      • becca Says:

        GSUSA must be doing some good work on personal finances. I just saw a tweet from them about a financial literacy survey. I was amazed by how many girls said they would be able to own their own home (90+%) and how few wanted to learn about how to pay for college (<50%). I don't know if this is more a function of some having the idea college costs are covered, that it seems to far away to learn about yet, or if it's a reflection of some unrealistic expectations.

        I also agree that many professional finance types who volunteer to teach skills have a particular attitude and perspective that is not universal (and wouldn't necessarily be my first pick for an early exposure to this stuff for my kid!). Some of that is the specialist problem (some great scientists are also lousy scientific outreach volunteers). And some is that everyone needs personal finance, but not everyone needs the same approach, and making things relevant to kids is a challenge anyway… it really would be easy to design a class that would be fascinating for adults ready to buy their first house that would be completely weird and dull for kids.

        Anyway, I'm sure there are some Girl Scouts around who would be happy to let you volunteer. Just do me a favor and be sure to warn the girls that not liking to sell cookies (and *hating* the fall product sales!) is not a sign they will not develop great money skills.
        Or if outreach opportunities are usually in partnership with a bank, do any local credit unions sponsor any? You might still have a bit of the problem, but removing the profit incentive might change the tone (though it's really about the individual incentives too…I suppose I should ask my credit unions if anyone's compensation is dependent on getting X number of mortgages!)

      • Rosa Says:

        I should check the credit unions, that is a good idea (we belong to 3, now that we’ve made all our individual accounts joint). GSA is off my table for the moment because I’m chin-deep in BSA. I just like to plug their programs because what I’ve seen of them is great.

  3. The Frugal Ecologist Says:

    Totally off topic, but I couldnt figure out how to email you guys.

    I really want to know what you guys think about this study about publication quantity vs. quality in males vs. females. In particular Figure 1 – so many women at the bottom…so many men at the top…
    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0169534713000839

    • nicoleandmaggie Says:

      our email is in the about– grumpyrumblings… gmail…

      Hadn’t seen that study! We’ll have to look at it! IIRC, women produce less but get more citations. Let’s see if that holds true in this article.

  4. MutantSupermodel Says:

    The Onion has been nailing it time and again lately. They have a brilliant group right now it seems. The baby with the puppies slayed me. Loved the surprise art too. Appreciated the moms demand action resource. I love libraries too. And… yeah I think that’s the big stuff.


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