Because everybody cares about my life as much as I do.  (Not really!)


After one week at the new daycare, DC2 decided ze loved it.  Ze proudly proclaimed that ze had friends and named some.  Dropping off only took a little lingering.  After two weeks, ze stopped having nightmares.  Dropoffs became, “Yeah mom, bye, whatever” (though more in body language than words) and instead of clinging and crying ze complained about getting hugged if my coat was wet from rain.  Ze informed us that ze loves hir teachers.  Every day when we pick hir up ze says, “I had a good day.”  Since starting, hir eczema has also been entirely gone, which makes me suspect that they’re a lot better about making sure that ze doesn’t accidentally eat wheat.  Either that or there’s some topical allergen ze isn’t being exposed to in the new place (that just happened to not always be present at the old place).

High quality daycare is amazing and awesome.  What a difference!  I am a bit worried about next year though… I feel like we haven’t quite been fair with DC2 compared to DC1 who never had to experience a bad schooling experience.

Nice kitty who sometimes pees on cloth:

So far we’ve tried having 4 litterboxes for 2 kittens (6 litterboxes for 3 cats, but the other two are in the utility room instead of the master bathroom the kittens use as home base).  One covered litterbox (formerly 2 covered litterboxes), 3 uncovered.  3 with standard litter, 1 with special pine litter.  Different depths of litter.  Scooped every single night whether they need it or not.

They stay in the master bathroom (~100 sq feet, lots of windows, cupboards, scratching posts, a cat house, etc.) overnight until the late afternoon.  This keeps our older kitty from feeling overwhelmed and has allowed us to minimize pee damage.  They’re used to it and willingly go back to their home-base at night when it’s time to go.  If we let them out earlier they often just stay in the room.

We’ve tried not leaving cloth out, for example, putting our bedsheets away before letting the kittens out.

We’ve tried litter retraining (not letting the kittens out of the master bathroom while we’re out of town for a few days).

All of these have worked to decrease the amount of peeing on things, but none eliminated it.

The most recent thing that we still have our fingers crossed for was Prozac.  Nice kitty did not like being pilled at all, and while on Prozac she would hide from us and mostly stay under our bed or in the master bath during their family time.  The vet said to try it for two weeks.  During those two weeks she didn’t pee on anything (other than the litter, presumably), even though it seemed to make her more anxious rather than less anxious!

After the two weeks, we stopped the Prozac, because nice kitty really hated being pilled, and the vet said it was possible that even after stopping Prozac after the two weeks her peeing on cloth habit might also be gone.  So far so good.  But we keep waiting to find something peed on.

So those are my updates.  Fun times.

16 Responses to “Updates”

  1. zenmoo Says:

    Yay for high quality daycare.

  2. Holly@ClubThrifty Says:

    Wait? Your cat is on Prozac? =)

    I love the “Bye. Mom. Whatever” when you drop off at daycare. That’s how I know everything is okay. It makes life soooo much easier to have a daycare you trust. Glad you found something!

  3. Dame Eleanor Hull Says:

    We have two cats on Prozac, to reduce anxiety/aggression. A compounding pharmacy makes it up in liquid form and we put it on their wet food in the morning. If you need it again, you might see if you can find a compounding pharmacy. There’s a mail-order one somewhere that we tried briefly and then went back to our relatively-local place.

    At the risk of sounding like a kitty drug-pusher, I recommend Prozac to any readers who have problems with aggression in multi-cat households, especially if the humans are the sort of suckers who are likely to take in poor needy kitties. It has worked wonders for Basement Cat and Glendower; BC might have been “unadoptable” without it. It’s still good to work on the behavioral stuff, but sometimes that needs a little boost.

    • nicoleandmaggie Says:

      It so weird though, because other than the peeing, Nice Kitty didn’t have any behavior problems. She’s just the sweetest plump little cat and she and her sister love each other. But on Prozac she became scared and spent all her time hiding.

      We’ll definitely look into liquid Prozac for soft food if she starts up again, since pilling was pretty traumatic for all involved. Those prozac half pills are big compared to our late Big Kitty’s heart medication and much harder to swallow. Generally she’d end up turning it into prozac paste by the end.

      • JaneB Says:

        The pheromone stuff you can get in a diffuser helped my kitty, and was recommended by the cattery lady who fosters ‘bad cases’ for the local cats home so has a LOT of experience with peeing-out-of-place kitties (she told me that for one of hers the easiest solution has been to line one of the litter boxes with a folded towel since that’s what kitty will pee on, and she seems happy to use it in one place, just keep some old pieces of towelling just for that purpose). There is no way I would manage to get pills into Furball more than once unless she was really, really sick or I had two or three people around to help immobilise her

        I’m sure you’ve had her checked, but when my normally happy plump little girl cat started peeing out of her box occasionally it turned out she had bladder problems (intermittent at first) and I’m told it’s quite common in female cats…

      • nicoleandmaggie Says:

        Yeah, the vet couldn’t find anything at all wrong with her either time we brought her in (as a kitten and more recently). It seems to be entirely behavioral, as best anyone can tell.

        I didn’t mention we also tried pheremones (feliway, the other feliway-like thingy), catnip, and orange spray. None of these seemed to make much of a difference. We tried lining a litter box with cloth, but she never used it and eventually the kitty formerly known as mean kitty decided it made a great bed.

  4. Leah Says:

    Good luck with the peeing. I hope it has stopped for good. I had a cat as a kid that did that, though she only peed on cloth if it was left on the floor. I just learned to have a very clean floor.

    Re: daycare, that’s awesome. I agree that smooth drop off just sets one’s mind at ease so much.

    • nicoleandmaggie Says:

      She’s just like that– the floor has to not have any cloth on it… and the beds have to be perfectly smooth (which for us means stripping them instead of making them since our comforters are too floofy) and she doesn’t pee. Hopefully better living through medicine has broken the habit. We’ll see!

      • Leah Says:

        Oh, yuck on the bed thing. That would be the worst part. Keeping floors clean is (I hope) not so bad.

        Good luck!

      • Contingent Cassandra Says:

        The bed thing is definitely the most wearing (because of course you’re most likely to forget/not strip it in time when you’re overwhelmed in one way or another, and that’s exactly when you want to be able to flop into an already-bed without finding a wet spot). I’m sure you’ve already considered a tarp (which would also be a nuisance, but maybe less so), and a murphy bed seems like too expensive a solution (unless you want a guest bed for a library/office type room anyway). Fingers crossed that the Prozac worked.

      • nicoleandmaggie Says:

        Yeah, it’s pretty annoying. We do have mattress protection, but were mostly just stripping the bed. And she does it to more than one of the beds, but our solution to the other beds has been to keep the doors closed when the kittens are out. The master bed is on the way to their home base so we can’t shut it away.

  5. CG Says:

    The eczema symptoms might also be reduced because of a lower-stress daycare situation. Not saying stress is the underlying cause, but it sure doesn’t help. Glad for you all that you’ve found a better situation.

  6. Cloud Says:

    Hooray for the good child care! It make such a huge difference.

    I second the stress thing on eczema. I have an eczema like condition on my legs- started during my 2nd pregnancy, and has gotten much better but not totally gone away. Stress can make it flare, but in an unpredictable way. It is definitely not a linear correlation where more stress = more itching.

    But your theory about the food thing is probably the most likely!

  7. jlp Says:

    Excellent news, all around!

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